INTERVIEW WITH PRACHANDA
The recently UCPN-M Central Committee meeting could go a long way in changing the ways of the party and the party leadership. Maoist Chairman Pushpa Kamal Dahal “Prachanda” decided to address calls for “reforms” from the second rank leadership. Now that the turbulent times are over‚ “Prachanda” looks ahead and says peace and constitution writing processes will take a significant leap.
He spoke with THT’s Tika R Pradhan. Excerpts:
Some decisions of your party’s recent Central Committee seem to be harsher than the party’s earlier stance. How can you convince other parties?
We had an extended CC meeting because we had to deal with internal struggle and issues of national importance. But we have passed the work plan on peace‚ constitution and consensus. It is not true that our decisions are harsh.
How can you forge agreement on withdrawing dual security and on army integration?
Remove dual security for leaders who didn’t become ministers is problematic. The state should provide alternative security.
We accepted the NA proposal for integrating PLA under its directorate. All other integration issues will be finalised after discussions‚ including who will lead the directorate. All PLA combatants must be fit for the security forces. Unit-wise integration will be best for both NA and PLA.
Is regrouping and preparing first draft of constitution possible by August 31?
It is possible provided the NC and Madhes-based parties are serious. Forging agreement on all issues in a package will be best. We are close to agreement on three issues — number of combatants to be integrated‚ modality and rehabilitation package. Regrouping will begin after we agree on the three tasks.
How will you prepare the first draft when there is no consensus on state restructuring‚ forms of governance and electoral system?
We are close to consensus on forms of governance with executive president. All parties agree on proportional and inclusive election system in principle. The issue of state restructuring is a bit complex. We can put differing views in the index and take the decision of the majority to the people through the first draft of the constitution.
What will happen to the five-point deal with the CC’s cabinet reshuffle decision?
We don’t have differences on forming national consensus government and taking the peace and constitution drafting processes ahead. Nobody should confuse our cabinet reshuffle decision with the five-point deal‚ but without consensus the PM’s resignation would be useless. Sending a new team to the cabinet was purely our party’s internal issue of ensuring inclusiveness. It won’t affect the five-point deal.
Isn’t the decision to send one vice-chairman to the existing cabinet and the other to lead the national consensus government conflicting?
No. Dr Baburam Bhattarai is second in rank after Kiran. Kiranji is not in CA‚ so he will not be the PM candidate. It’s now Bhattarai’s turn to lead the government. Narayan Kaji Shrestha ranks third. So he will lead the party in the incumbent government.
Demands have been raised for the general secretary’s leadership in government and NC has been saying you should lead the government.
If the party wants‚ anyone can become PM‚ even a CC member‚ if the party decides. It’s wrong to say Bhattarai cannot complete the peace and statute drafting processes.
When will you hand over leadership of the Parliamentary Party to Baburam Bhattarai?
We have not taken any decision in this regard.
Leaders who initiated the signature campaign claim you are in minority. Don’t you have to step down on moral ground?
That’s a wrong proposition. I have never been in minority. We cannot accept signature campaigns from outside the party committees. Firstly‚ it’s not true that they have garnered majority against me. Secondly we cannot consider issues that don’t appear in the CC. Thirdly‚ all leaders were for my leadership. So there is no question of resigning on moral ground.
The leaders harassed you a lot this time. Ups and downs‚ and turns keep coming. However‚ this time it was intense and it left a different impression. It was like labour pain that brings happiness after birth.
Leaders have united against your supremacy in the party. Why?
I think raising questions is normal. That has happened in the past. Now the party is in open politics‚ it has grown in both national and international fronts. So internal struggle has also become more intense.
It’s been two decades that you have not held a national convention. Why are you afraid of democratic practice within your party?
I am not afraid. During the war‚ we could not hold a convention. But we organised the second national conference in 2000. We organised unity convention from which we emerged as Unified CPN-Maoist. The latest CC has decided to hold a national convention.
Leaders have accused you of not implementing collective leadership endorsed two years back.
I don’t agree. We have been practicing collective leadership since long. I don’t accept the leadership is centralized. The party should examine this. Holding the chairman responsible for all the ills is not justifiable.
Leaders say you have become opportunist‚ arrogant‚ reformist etc. What do you say?
These are wrong allegations. If we agree with the change in politics‚ achievements of the decade-long people’s war‚ it’s against Marxism to oppose the leadership. Changes in society will prove that my leadership was correct.
(Published in The Himalayan Times on July 29, 2011)
